And a crowd was sitting around him, and they said to him, “Your mother and your brothers are outside, seeking you. But He answered them, saying, “Who is My mother, or My brothers?” And He looked around in a circle at those who sat about Him, and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers Mark 3:31–34
While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. SomeonetoldHim,“Look,Yourmotherandbrothersare standingoutside,wantingto speakto You.” But Jesus replied, “Who is My mother, and who are My brothers? For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”…Matt 12.50
Now Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see him, but they were not able to get near him because of the crowd. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to see you.” He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.” Luke 8:19–21
@ rhemes1582 You are an idiot. I said nothing not already expressed in the bible passages. It is no wonder the Catholic Church is in such trouble when people like you are free to be say and believe stupid things.
@chris griffin JESUS elevates His Mother by showing she is 1st always for She is always 1st with His Sacred Heart in doing His and the Father's Will. May their Sacred Hearts be praised. Go to confession chris griffen, for trolling and insulting The Mother of God ;The Blessed Virgin Mary again publicly.
@ rhemes1582 You are an idiot. I said nothing not already expressed in the bible passages. It is no wonder the Catholic Church is in such trouble when people like you are free to be say and believe stupid things.
@chris griffin So now you also make yourself your own authority on how to understand the scriptures you cited instead of referring to the Catholic Church's teaching on those same scriptures and how we are to understand the unique and indispensable role of the Blessed Virgin Mary in salvation history -- a role appointed and arranged by God when He conceived Himself within her, making Her "Spouse of the Holy Ghost" -- and the veneration of hyperdulia which the Catholic Church herself teaches us that we owe her as the Mother of God. You are clearly a Protestant not a Catholic with your self-referential authority.
@ Ave Crux.... I would implore you please stick to the facts. I believe in the Biblical Mary and the Catholic Mary. I also believe in these Bible verses that Jesus refused to talk to her when she wanted to talk. Jesus said that anyone can become Jesus' mother!!!! Jesus repeated this verse 3 times in the Bible so no body would miss it.
@chris griffin As I say below, your reductionist comment about the character of your post is belied by its title: JESUS DOWNPLAYS HIS MOTHER. That's blasphemy. He did no such thing.
@chris griffin I suggest you wise up. You are in stark contradiction of the Catholic Church teaching and making yourself your own authority on how to understand sacred scripture and Catholic doctrine. It's disgraceful. You will regret it on your death bed.
@ Ave Crux...you are mentally a disturbed person. you have no comprehensive of Catholic right to comment on scripture. I have not denied any Church or Bible dogma. That is your mental disturbance lying to you. This is actually scarry to have such hatred on this site for no reason other then you enjoy it. I hope you get over it before you die.
@chris griffin look in the mirror....you insult Jesus Himself and the Mother of God, and you expect Catholics not to rise to indignation. That's what our Confirmation is for. You know what Saint Thomas Aquinas says about that? He says that not to be indignant when it is called for is to sin by defect. "Saint Thomas Aquinas taught that anger is justified when it arises from a just cause, specifically when directed at injustice, because anger seeks the good of justice." How much more so when it is the sin of blasphemy against Jesus and Mary on a Catholic website. I don't have an atom of "hatred" for you.... I have absolute indignation regarding your blasphemy on this website. You degrade Our Lord Himself by CLAIMING He "DOWNPLAYED" His own Mother....! I will defend the honor of Both, even as you defame it.
Mary has no claim on Jesus because of bloodline. Jesus specifically included his mother in proclaiming that his mother is not a specially privileged person. Jesus never said and his wrong to for you to say " the importance of US doing as His Mother does..' because he never said that.
You have fully exposed yourself. There is clearly a dark spirit in anyone who does not revere the Blessed Virgin Mary according to CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHING. That is, that the Blessed Virgin Mary is due the veneration of hyperdulia. Even the Angel Gabriel hailed the Virgin Mary with explicit reverence: "Hail, Full of Grace!" And even St Elizabeth revered the Blessed Virgin Mary, saying "How is it that the Mother of my Lord should come to me? Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb!" And Our Lady Herself declared, "From henceforth all generations shall call me blessed, for He who is mighty has done great things in me." SHE WAS CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN....remained Immaculate Her entire life and was Assumed into Heaven! How dare you say that she was not a specially privileged person! That is to deny Infallible Doctrines of the Catholic Church. In fact, the entire series of apparitions at Fatima include a specific request for a Five First Saturday devotion of Communions of Reparation to Her Immaculate Heart, requested by God, specifically for such crimes and insults as yours against the honor of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Fatima is approved by the Church as an authentic apparition, confirmed by a miracle witnessed by more than 70,000 people....even atheists and Communists who came to mock it. Read this, for you are clearly in spiritual trouble, my brother: In the vast and beautiful universe of Catholic devotion there exists a form of veneration reserved solely for the Most Holy Virgin Mary: Hyperdulia. This term, derived from the Greek hyper (above) and dulia (service of veneration), distinguishes the special honor we give to the Mother of God above that given to the Saints (dulia) but always below the worship owed to God alone (latria). In a world where Marian devotion is often misunderstood or even attacked, it is crucial to understand with theological depth and filial love why the Catholic Church honors Mary in a unique way. Hyperdulia: The Unique Veneration of the Most … You're not even Catholic, or you're a troll.
You have fully exposed yourself as a fool. I have written nothing against the BVM. I don't think that Jesus said the word " Hyperdulia' . You are not educated as a Catholic and you don't have an ounce of Catholic sense or you are under the spell of an evil spirit.
@chris griffin I will restate my reply above and comment further: So now you also make yourself your own authority on how to understand the scriptures you cited instead of referring to the Catholic Church's teaching and infallible doctrine on those same scriptures and how we are to understand the unique and indispensable role of the Blessed Virgin Mary in salvation history -- a role appointed and arranged by God. God formed and chose the Blessed Virgin Mary for this unique role, as the faithful, Immaculate Virgin, and God conceived Himself within her, making Her "Spouse of the Holy Ghost" [that's nothing "special"?]. "Mary is referred to as the spouse of the Holy Spirit because of her unique role in the Incarnation of Jesus, where the Holy Spirit overshadowed her, leading to the virginal conception of Christ. This title symbolizes her deep devotion to God and her special relationship with the Trinity." Therefore, the veneration of hyperdulia is accorded Her, which the Catholic Church herself teaches that we owe her as the "Mother of God" (defined at the Council at Ephesus). You are clearly a Protestant, and think like a Protestant, not a Catholic with your self-referential authority and lack of reverence for the Blessed Virgin Mary. May God forgive you for insulting the Blessed Virgin Mary, whom God Himself elevated to become His "Spouse" and conceive the Word Incarnate within Her, with Her permission. Mother of God Pope Benedict XVI "The ancient title of the Blessed Virgin expresses Mary's unique mission in salvation history and her key role in the mystery of Christ and the Church.
@chris griffin Yes, you did. You said "Jesus specifically included his mother in proclaiming that his mother is not a specially privileged person." That's outrageous blasphemy and a clear contradiction of everything the Catholic Church has ever taught. Take it back and remove this post.
@ Ave Crux,,, I said... "Jesus treated his mother as anyone else with her. Jesus did not stop to attend to her and he refused to talk to her and said anybody can be like his mother."That is exactly true in these 3 passages. I never denied any Catholic or Biblical dogma about Mary.
The headline for this post needs to be changed or removed immediately. It is blasphemous to even suggest that Jesus "downplayed" His Mother and it's a completely erroneous misunderstanding of that passage. On the contrary, Jesus was elevating the understanding of what family is. It wasn't what Our Lord was negating, it was about what He was adding: the importance of US doing as His Mother does.. Exegesis on Mark 3 is as follows: "In Mark 3:31-34, Jesus redefines the concept of family in the context of spiritual relationships. This passage highlights the importance of obedience to God over traditional familial ties. "In Mark 3:31-34, Jesus emphasizes that true familial bonds are formed through doing the will of God, rather than through biological relationships. When His mother and brothers seek Him, He responds by indicating that those who follow Him and obey God are His true family." "Mark 3:31–35 records Jesus redefining family membership around spiritual commitment rather than biological kinship. Jesus declares that anyone who does God's will becomes his mother, brother, and sister." And here is Venerable Bede's commentary on that passage. Again, it's about Our Lord using that moment to teach His disciples about an "ascesis" of heart, about a perfect supernatural orientation in our entire lives, even as pertains to our familial bonds. Notice, Venerable does not say anything about "downplaying" His Mother, but about absolute attention to the supernatural duties we have to God: Venerable Bede: "Our Lord does not refuse to go out through any, or in the least, inattention to his mother; he wishes hereby, to teach us the preference we should give to the business of our heavenly Father, before that of our earthly parents. Neither does he consider his brethren as beneath his attention, but prefers spiritual before temporal duties; and shews us, that a religious union of hearts and feelings is far more lasting, and better rooted than any other ties of affinity or friendship whatsoever." (Ven. Bede)
Jesus treated his mother as anyone else with her. Jesus did not stop to attend to her and he refused to talk to her and said anybody can be like his mother. It is quite accurate to say he downplayed her weather or not you were taught that way.
@chris griffin 1. Gave his mother to the apostle John from the cross. He did not do this for any other woman. He talked to her at the wedding feast of Canna. Anyone can strive to be holy like his mother but clearly cannot bear Jesus as a son. You seem to have some real issues when it comes to Our Lady both in the time of Christ and her appearances since.
@ frawley... My original post is about Jesus refusing to talk to his mother when she wanted to talk and said anyone can be like his brother or mother. Seems plain enough but some people have no discernment. I did not talk about the other things you mentioned. Stay focused on what I said in my post instead of all the other stuff in the Bible.
@chris griffin Your reductionist comment about the character of your post is belied by its title: JESUS DOWNPLAYS HIS MOTHER. That's blasphemy. He did no such thing.
@ Ave Crux Again, 3 times for emphasis, Jesus refused to talk to her when she wanted to talk to him and he said that anybody can be his mother Yes the God of the universe talked down to his creature mother.
@chris griffin So I suppose you will need a Venn diagram to understand that the overlap that Our Lord speaks of here regarding the perfect alignment of our will with the Will of God does not somehow circumscribe the otherwise vast universe of Our Lady's extraordinary and unique privileges in contrast to the rest of the human race and the fact that She is granted by the Church -- for that very reason -- the exalted and privileged veneration of hyperdulia. SHE IS QUEEN OF HEAVEN and EARTH, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN, MOTHER OF GOD, SPOUSE OF THE HOLY GHOST, FULL OF GRACE, BLESSED AMONGST WOMEN, WOMAN CLOTHED WITH THE SUN, SINLESS, ASSUMED INTO HEAVEN, MEDIATRIX OF ALL GRACE (which is why the Church promulgates the Miraculous medal),and the list goes on and on.